In this episode, we break down how the body’s energy systems work together, eating habits, why building endurance is the foundation to fitness, trends in diet and workout and various other random topics. Dan Thiessen of Radix Performance Centre in Oakville, Ontario joins Nick and me to catch up chat fitness. One of the largest benefits of going to a gym for myself hasn’t been the physical changes, it’s been the mental benefits. There have been many times I’ve felt like I couldn’t continue through a workout only to have the group encourage me through it. After accomplishing things that only a few years ago I would have though would be impossible for myself it’s translated into an increase mental game that has benefited all other areas of life. Enjoy!!
00:00:00 Hey, it’s Tom Karadza and on this episode of the your life, your term show, we are kicking off the year with some fitness talk. This is the time where we all figure out if we’re going to get fit or more fit. I’m in the coming year, so we thought this would be a perfect time to share a talk with Dan from Radix. That’s one of the, uh, that’s the gym we go to. I’m in Oakville, he’s a great guy. He breaks down some stuff. We talk about the three energy systems in the body. Um, I personally need to work on my endurance. So it was kind of asking them some questions around that. We talk about CrossFit, some of the trends in the industry, eating habits. Uh, we discovered we had some good laughs over just food and eating and that kind of thing. So it’s a great talk.
00:00:39 Dan is a great guy, full of knowledge. Uh, Nick has been working with Dan Radix for I feel like, I dunno, five, I want to say maybe four or five years now. I’m a whole bunch of us, myself included, do some group classes and joining some of the CrossFit classes multiple times a week at a gym in Oakville. So just a good, good chance to meet someone who knows their stuff. We talk about the difference between powerlifting and weightlifting and get into all different stuff. So enjoy the chat and uh, that’s it. Let’s get on with the show.
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00:01:39 Okay, go. So after I was lifting, I was going for a Rotiz after regularly because I was looking for the highest calorie thing that I could get, but it was like meat and then the potatoes in it and stuff. And I was like, this is great. And I’m like, I could just devour these things. No problem. All you have to do is go to the around the Olympic weightlifting area in the gym, and then just see all the leftover doughnut boxes, candy stash, like all over that place. Most people just sit, lift, eat, lift. He rest and all sugar to how many calories do you think you’re burning a day? Me, I don’t know. I think my understanding my eyes or ring say, oh, I don’t know. I didn’t even look for that. I literally just looked at it for resting heart rate and HRV.
00:02:23 Did you ever check with your, with the woop and stuff? It was a three. Just over 3000. 3,000 range. Thirty 3000. Thirty one. Sometimes it was 29. It seems pretty accurate. I was my typical day, um, if I worked out and I was working was in the $4,500. I’ll tell her you and I’m like six foot one. And how much do you weigh? Two hundred and 10 pounds. You’re doing 4,200 calories. Yeah. I was like, what people don’t realize is I walk all day long moving people to lose weight. You have to eat 4,200 calories basically and gain weight. I have to eat more, but what it does, why did you ask how like doesn’t matter how big
00:02:59 you are, I guess to a point because when I see Damien, the gym, I don’t need that big of a guy and then I see him out of the gym. I’m like, C’mon, we know, but I mean if you’re, you just call them smaller. Kind of looking into context when you see him in the general population, you’re like what the hell? But so, but if you’re. I mean if you were six inches shorter than waiting,
00:03:21 wait, just like that’s the amount of mass you’re carrying. So to maintain the mass you need a certain amount of calories. So at the higher the mass, the more calories, then it depends what the mass is made up of. Yeah. Because then your body will start coming to convert either the fat to muscle or you’ll gain more fat if you’re just sitting around doing nothing. Right. Why are you thinking? I asked him that.
00:03:43 I don’t know. Probably not even thinking, just asking, but then some calories isn’t the big argument online right now between even doctors and PhD guys and Shit that, uh, the different calories will, like, you know, that whole argument. I didn’t even want to bring this up, I don’t even want to bring this up, but now that a calorie is not a calorie, like if you eat a calorie from fat, it might be stored or it might be metabolized and handling your body a little different than okay.
00:04:10 Three macronutrients, protein, fats and carbs that you, depending on your boss or a nice and close, sorry, depending on your, your, uh, your body, your makeup and how your metabolism is, um, it’s gonna. Use those macronutrients differently. So some people work really well on a higher carb carbohydrate diet and typically those are like, I’m hard gainers so they, it’s hard for them to gain weight and they got to really try to gain weight. They usually could eat tons of carbs and they’ll never gain weight. And then situation. Oh yeah. But you talk to those people and they hate it.
00:04:48 Yeah. Say what they want again. Like I want to be bigger and I can’t. Yeah, exactly. And people were like hating on them because like, well you can eat whatever you want and you’re always skinny. Anyways, Tom got his genetics done. He can eat more fat because the body can process that better than other to log into the DNA fit cause DNA fits based on my jeans and you can see that with him.
00:05:07 How you eat and how you prefer to eat that you prefer a higher fat diet.
00:05:11 I feel like I can eat a lot of fat. I don’t know why. Yeah. Yeah, it does. It’s like remember what those genetics don’t eat anything else. So no, I do. You’ve been at it since the first 12 week challenge. You’ve been adding more cars started. I started eating oatmeal. Yeah. That was a big deal. And then I started eating more rice and more sweet potato and just more quantity of food. Yeah. And then you never like, it never made you fat though, right? No, no, no. What we’re going to start doing when I go, when I talked to Tom about this stuff, I’m gonna start charging him because I found that the only people that he listens to around this stuff is once he has to pay the money for that, he just won’t listen to. No, no, it’s, it’s. Once I figured out for myself, I’m just stubborn. I will hear what you have to say, but first of all, you’re my younger brother so there’s an automatic discount. I honestly an automatic pistol skeptical as to any of the younger brothers and I don’t listen to a thing either, but I know I appreciate what but mixing. It’s just sometimes when you’re in the middle of it, I’m like, I don’t know. I just want to figure this out for myself and kind of go through it and now I can definitively say that Nick is right because when I was eating too few calories and then going to radix with you definitely was getting a beat down and my throat was dry. Like I really was dry throat all the time and then as soon as I started eating some more carbohydrates, specifically more carbohydrate because I was hardly eating any. Um, then everything got better, performance felt better. I was getting through the workouts better. I didn’t even gain weight. Like I shouldn’t say that I gained weight, but I feel like it was mostly
00:06:40 yes. And on top of that, the dry throat, like you must have been so dehydrated all the time. I know. So the carbohydrates will help you store more water in your muscles. And
00:06:50 I didn’t even, I didn’t even connect the dots. You guys already knew this stuff, but it took me like a year and a half. So now I can say that nick was completely right,
00:06:57 but it’s amazing, right? Like all the, everything in the marketing world for this kind of stuff is pushing that low carbohydrate lifestyle, stuff like that. Right. But which wouldn’t make sense if you’re like, you know, not doing anything. If you sat around all day or at your office and then you went home and you sat and watched TV shirt. I’m, I think a low carbohydrate diet would probably be the perfect thing for you, but if you want to be active and strong and all, do all these things and, and run around with your kids and stuff like that. Like why, why would you.
00:07:28 I feel like you owe yourself properly based on what you just said. I am like, if I don’t actually go to the gym and workout, I know exactly what to eat based on everything I’ve tried now and I won’t, I, I won’t gain weight. I can can stay lean and you know, I feel pretty good. But now going to the gym and doing physical exercise, I’m like damn, I really want to feel good. I need to change the Diet I’m eating. And I didn’t. Uh, I don’t know. I guess I missed those classes in health. I don’t know. They don’t teach this stuff.
00:07:55 You’re um, I think our education is based on a marketing for companies that are trying to sell diets. That’s it. That’s
00:08:04 the other thing that bothers me. You don’t want people talking about. Yeah, we got to stop talking over each other. No, I like talking over you specifically. That’s fine. Just to try to give people a good user experience as a good listener. Experience what you guys have to take turns and put up your hands. What I, what I learned is that, uh, now I lost my train of thought based on nick. Perfect 10 carbs and diets and yeah, that’s the thing that bothers me on the, on the whole diet thing is that people will ask me what I eat now and I’ll say I’m kinda like I eat a bit more fat and they’re like, oh, you’re on like a high fat diet. And I’m like, well, I, I think I’d rather explain it saying my diet is this, then I’m on a diet. Does that make sense? Like, yeah, my diet is, this is what I eat. I’m not actually feel like I’m on a diet. Like, and there’s a little distinction there. Like I know I’m saying the same words basically, but it’s not
00:08:55 like I’m trying to like diet. I just like this is what my diet is compromised of, this is consistently, consistently and this is what I eat. And uh, yeah, just kind of that, that whole thing. But I, I, the industry is amazing. The fact that they come up with a new diet all the time and everybody just reusing the same material and calling it different things in the intermittent fasting is the one that gets me now because I’ve looked at some studies, there’s a big fat guy in Toronto, I forget his name, Jason. Leah. This was one of the de facto experts on the subject. Totally. Yeah. So I’ve watched a couple of presentations on them. It just seems like a smart guy and know a few different things. There was that biohacking conference I went to, it was in Toronto and that, that term to biohacking can get people all up in arms of our stutter.
00:09:39 But it was just about diet and different things. And um, yeah, a lot of the studies show because intermittent fasting is such a big thing now. Like everyone, you know, you know, a few years ago it was like this new thing that only some people spoke about. Now it’s like the cool thing to do, right? And um, but the studies are showing a lot of the studies that they were referencing, we’re showing that actually what’s happening on the Internet, but people with intermittent fasting is they’re actually on a calorie, reduced their calorie deficits as a calorie-reduced diet because they can’t intake that many calories in that small window of timeframe because he just basically got to stuff your face. Yep. Well, so that’s what the newest stuff newest. But that’s what the studies are showing. But everyone thinks it’s this like this new holy grail to Ed, this has changed.
00:10:19 This is the way that things should be. Well you’ve kind of like maybe it’s working for you, but really you’re just kind of like taking in less than you’re outputting. And that’s kind of the, the majority of the benefits. Maybe not all of them, but the majority or a chunk of them, I won’t sort of, majority for weight loss like you for weight loss is very simple. You need to take in. And I’m not talking health, just weight loss. Like you can lose weight and I could eat McDonald’s every day and lose weight as long as I take in less calories and I put out, I will lose weight. You’re going gonna feel like crap. No. Yeah, but I’m, I’m just saying for weight loss, right? If we just simplify it as simple as it can be, that’s all it is. Right? But now you’re just teaching people how to control a bit of that, of their diet by not letting them eat in huge chunks of time.
00:11:04 Right. I don’t talk about a lot of that stuff just because I don’t know. People get all up in arms about that stuff. So I started those zealots for everything you don’t go and. Yeah. But see, my wife said something to me too because she’s like, well, I thought you told me that breakfast is so important. Like this was years ago. I’m like, well no, I, I, I believe breakfast is important, but why I’m saying that you might not be like, why? It might not matter as much as. Because if your breakfast is a big, you know, two big glasses of orange juice and some fruit and a Bagel with cream cheese. Yeah. Or something like that. Well then you know what, you’re better off without the thing because it’s going to mess you up. Mess up all your insulin levels earlier. You’re going to be eating. You’ll be crashing later. Like so if that’s the case, then yes, skip breakfast all day long because you’re not really skipping breakfast. You’re skipping like a bunch of crap. Yeah. It’s almost like dessert, you know? So, um, anyways, so that, that was the conversation I had with her. So she’s like, yeah, I just don’t get it. I just,
00:11:53 I need someone just to tell me the one thing that works and I’m like, there is no one thing that works. You’ve got to figure it out for you. And she doesn’t like that answer at all. So we’ve, we’ve stopped talking about diet in my house. It’s not a good, not a good conversation. You know what to continue the conversation on, on the, on the day I just struggled to log into my DNA fit thing. But I thought I was a Mediterranean, it says optimal diet. So if you’ve never heard of DNA fit, it’s this service you throw in your 23 and me DNA data. Have you ever taken your 23 and me and then when you come like jeans have an elite powerlifter or some crap. Like really? Yeah, right. It does. Seriously. There’s like a thing that says that says that I’m going to pull it up.
00:12:31 If you’re listening to this, you can’t see Dan smiling right now. But as the biggest smile I’ve ever seen was the only thing that I took away from it. I’m like, Yep, that’s right. I was like, okay. I was pissed when I saw mine because I was like, I wanted those fast twitch, like I’m 45 now, but I’m like, I want to be one of those guys that has those fast twitch muscles. That’s what the. That’s what the power. Okay. And I guess I’m like the other one. I’m pretty sure it’d be a better endurance runner. I don’t know. You’ve seen it. That’s what I want to ask you about. I don’t know if it’s a basically I’m not going to either but see in my DNA fit, I thought it was going to say so the Diet types that it says based on your, so you load up, basically what you do is you get your 23 and me or ancestry DNA, you load it up into this service and based on your genetics.
00:13:14 So this isn’t 100 percent accurate because it’s just taking your genetics and it’ll tell you based on what it says. So it’s not your epigenetics. So it’s not like how the environment has affected your genetics. It’s just straight up based on your DNA. Here’s your optimal diet. I thought it was going to be Mediterranean for sure. There’s three choices. Mediterranean, low carbon, low fat. I’m a low carb. It’s St based on my, just my pure jeans and I do think that’s kind of right for me. I don’t feel like I can handle a lot of car, but I don’t think I do well on a lot of carb. But in situations like going to the gym and stuff, I do need some carbs, you know, and it’s probably a very specific what, what you feel good taking it. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. But I really think I can go for days with like very little carb dish like protein and fat and coffee.
00:14:01 I know me too. But uh, Dan, you know, what I was going to ask you is what do you think’s happening right now in Canada? I feel like Canada always legs what’s happening in the states, but you know, there’s more and more different types of companies that are opening up, like with functional fitness type of thing. There’s um, you know, I think there’s orange theory and there’s a bunch of other ones you know, that they’re not just like the old school gyms that are not like lifetime fitness or the Gold’s gym that nick used to go to. Did you go to Gold’s gym? No, I never went to Gold’s gym. I did have a good life membership once back in the day. A lot of people go to good life. That’s the biggest chain right now. I think so. I think it’s every in Canada. Yeah, after premier premier was everywhere. It was everywhere. We’re trying to charge her for 10 years. Like what was the deal with information and you just couldn’t cancel.
00:14:51 You hung up the phone thinking, yeah, I think I cancelled my membership and the next month it would come on your statement and there wasn’t online banking so you literally like waited until you got your statement and you’re like, what the hell is going on? But um, but I think what do you think’s happening in Canada with like, it seems slowly there’s more and more I’m kind of franchises and chains coming out that aren’t just like a regular old school kind of either a gold’s gym or the modern nicer, like big box gyms, big box gyms, that kind of stuff. But there are you going walk on the treadmill and people finally understanding that, you know, like, yeah, I think social media has a huge impact on that because everybody’s following their favorite, I dunno, or whatever. And they’re all doing stuff that actually works now. So the stuff that works, you need to move, you need to move in ways that we were meant to built a move, you know, so and that’s how you get real results is you know, you can go walk on a treadmill, do some curls, you’re not going to really do anything for yourself.
00:15:53 It’s funny because now I finally see people are kind of distinguishing between bodybuilding and understanding the difference between at all. I think social media is such a huge educator in that kind of stuff because you got me addicted to this one freaking youtube CrossFit, but what I’ve found is, so I’ve watched this freaking guy on youtube all the time now, -but one of his buddies or he used to be a bodybuilder bodybuilder. He was Richie. What’s the guy’s youtube channel team? Richie, Craig, and he used to be a bodybuilder and some of his friends that he brings on his youtube channel are like x bodybuilders. And what I find fascinating of where we are in fitness is that they are now distinguishing between, yes, I’m doing these curls because I’m a bodybuilder and you’re doing these kinds of functional movements by like squatting and putting some weights overhead because you’re doing like CrossFit or a functional and you’re more like a more training your whole body and you’re trying to be fit.
00:16:46 Whereas I’m trying to build my body and be a bodybuilder. Whereas just like five, six, seven years ago, I feel like it was all smashed together. Like the bodybuilders thought they were fitter than the functional fitness guys. And the functional fitness guys look down on the body, you know, we’re now. People are like accepting every therapy. Have you watched any of those videos on Youtube? And it was like, you know, they do different workouts and it’s like the bodybuilder versus the cost versus the or the way that university, the power liftgate. People still come in the gym. And I’m like, uh Oh, I’m interested in your way. That same program. And I’ll be like, well, do you have any experience in. But yeah, I weight lift and then I realized what they mean by that is like they’ve been to the gym and they’ve moved some barbells, but I didn’t know, I still don’t even know what weightlifting, so weightlifting using would be Olympic lifting sport. So Olympic weightlifting and we just call it wait list. Our lifting powerlifting is bench press. Okay. I’d left school. I always mix it up. Wait, Olympic weightlifting is snatch and clean and jerk and it’s like weight lifting has been going on for
00:17:50 forever, like, for such a long time. Um, but yeah, people will just mix up all these terms and just because they go to the gym and do some bench press at their weightlifters. But that’s definitely changed it’s way. Yeah. But it’s becoming so much more popular now that am with social media and people following people. People are just educating themselves really just by watching people because I, I think, yeah. I think in the last few years I’ve heard more about clean and jerk from just regular people and snatching than maybe ever heard in my life. Yeah. It’s super pop. Well, weightlifting was almost dead outside of kind of a subculture and got little niche subcultural Russians before, before Crohn’s and Bulgarians, anything in that year, Eastern European block and the stairway producers. But um, but then the, uh, and, and most weightlifters will give CrossFit a lot of credit for the, was crossed the reborn kind of exposure to it, right?
00:18:49 Crossfit. We expose people to those movements even though this created, like you should see the American open now in the states, which is a once a year competition for Olympic weightlifting. There’s like 3000 people competing. That’s insane. Fifteen years ago there was like $300. There might’ve been 3000 people, not even 3000 people in the whole world that did weightlifting, but early CrossFit the formulas so bad that they just know crossfitters competing in weightlifting. That’s for sure. Now there’s a bunch because they’ve realized now we have coaches who do this for a living and it’s not a side job or this is what I do for a living. Right? So then you, you gotta get good at really teaching people how to do it. Otherwise you’re just a fraud. It’s a good evolution and I think just for somebody like me who kind of has been sitting at a desk for like 25, 25 years at this point, just a simple movement like putting your hands over your head.
00:19:44 Like for me when I first, you know, if anyone’s listening to this, if you think you can put your hands over your head and like when I think when I thought I could put my hands over my head, they were actually slightly ahead of my head. Most people will be, especially if you’ve been sitting in a chair and I still can’t do it very well, but I think it’s taking me like three or four years and I appreciate that it’s taken that long by the way. Like I like that it’s something you have to work that and it’s probably to move maybe two inches from the tips of my fingers to one spot to like a little bit further back now I think the middle of my shoulder blades, the back of my shoulder blades, like those middle muscles in there, the Rhomboids. Thank you.
00:20:18 Um, I don’t think I had any. I don’t think they’re very underutilized, especially in the body. Not, no, I wouldn’t say that bodybuilders, real bodybuilders will do it. People who go to the gym and do what I’ll put in quotes, bodybuilding where they just work, mirror muscles. They won’t use those. But those, that I never must have the gym at all so I don’t have them at all because I think it was Rachel at some point and he was like saying, okay now bring your shoulder blades back, your posture is off. And she’s like pushing into the middle of my back
00:20:48 saying, you know, Kinda squeeze these muscles here. And I was like, I don’t think, I don’t think there’s anything there. I think it’s just skin it. But now after years of trying, I think that I actually have a little bit of like motion where I can kind of like tense up those muscles and something actually happened
00:21:03 and they play a huge role in your short, like your shoulder health. So people with shoulder problems and stuff like that. And which kind of goes along with Paul because what do you see from people coming in there around, especially outside of social media, is people will walk around liking Instagram posts all day. Their heads are in this Ford looked down position. You’re in a chair, slouched over all the time and your body just adapts to the situations you put it in the most. So it just will naturally start to build that way. You have a generation of kids who grow old and just kind of crumple forward. You know,
00:21:42 I have my kids do the most ridiculous things. I’m like, look, I know I’m not going to get you off the phone all the time, but when you have your phone you have to have your arms straight in front of you and your your or your forearms up so your hands are in front of your face so that when you’re looking at your phone, you’re not hunched over and your phone is directly in front of your face. And they look at me. I’m like, I don’t care. You just do it. So I did that. I was at. I forgot what lineup I was in. I think it was at the grocery store the other day and I noticed myself looking down, but I was reading an article and the line was long and I’ve made. I’ve tried to make a conscious point of actually putting my phone away now in those instances and just letting my mind wander, but I think it was a leaf article.
00:22:16 I think it was the rest of that Mitch martyr article. I wanted to read a great article so it was reading it and I noticed my head was down so I put my head up and did that and held the phone in front of my face and I’m like, man, compared to the way most people look at their phones, like I must look so weird right now, but I don’t care. I don’t care because you don’t want. There’s someone. There’s someone at the gym to where her there, her daughter, because I see her when I go to the athletic therapist and I went to. Her daughter went there too from school, from looking down to the laptop and their phone too much as a lump in the back of her neck from, from a posture posture issues. What would the lumpy from just her neck bending.
00:22:47 You know, they said it’s, I dunno, I dunno. Like Richard said, it’s, it’s, yeah, it’s just something that because of looking down so much and what she’s been doing, it’s actually impacted now like her, her body, like it’s kind of like made a, made a problem. So they’re trying to fix it, master. Like we’re so smart developing all these different technologies that ended up then owning us. Like as a species, we’re the most freaking weird species because we do things that we think are so good that are ultimately like destroy. You know? It’s like the weirdest thing.
00:23:18 I Dunno man. Social media. I’m always back and forth with that. I have to fight it, I have to do it for business. So I’m on there all the time. Story, everything. But at the same time sometimes I sit there and I’m like, I would love to delete this forever.
00:23:36 More and more people here are deleting just, they’re not their instrument count, but their facebook account keeping Instagram, but just finally getting rid of facebook. I wonder if we, because I five years ago
00:23:46 I could have never seen Facebook. Someone’s saying, Hey, I’ll delete my facebook. That’s the only reason I keep it. As for some groups that you’re utilize private groups. Like with the gym group’s. Yeah, he’s in that way. I can send out information. People will respond fairly quickly. Emails take way longer for people to respond to. So I know I, you know, it’s so, there’s so many amazing things about it and then some days I’m just like, I want to get this all out of my life man. So how do you. I’m curious how you explained cross. Okay. So you do CrossFit classes at Radix. Okay. And um, how do you explain? Because I fail when I try to. Because some of my friends will say, hey, you know, Tom, what are you doing at the gym? And I’m like, I do this CrossFit class and I just fail trying to explain it because I say, oh yeah, we do pull-ups and you know, we kind of lift, we do some Olympic lifting, you know, we do these things called cleans and as soon as I say that, people are like, freaked out.
00:24:42 I’m like, I’m out. You’ve already said too much, Eh. How do you explain? Is there a different way to explain what CrossFit style working out is? Or is it, they have, they have a term and I don’t know if is it functional fitness? Functional fitness will be one way to explain it. Um, they have like, CrossFit has a, like a definition that they. But again, people don’t know if you, if you told the average person who doesn’t know anything about working out, they’d be like, oh, I have no idea what you’re talking about. Um, I just, when people come into the gym, I just tell them like, listen, we teach you how to move external loads. So I teach you how to pick things up, put it down, that kind of stuff. So stuff that’s that in everyday life you need to pick up and move around and I teach you how to move your body.
00:25:22 You should be good at moving your body in space so she’d be able to push yourself up off the ground. You should be able to pull yourself up onto something and then I make sure that you can do it a lot of times and I’m also make sure that you’re in good cardiovascular health so we run, we jump on things we row and that way that your heart and your lungs are in shape the way they should be and it’s basically what any athlete would do to get in shape for any type of thing. Except for, for the most part, I’m just keeping people in shape for life. And you’re dialing it down, dialing it down to adjust for their capability. Yeah, of course I’m not going to tell some 60 year old and I’m going to make them do it. Like I’m just trying to think if I walked in.
00:26:02 Does that explanation you even work because like someone like me, I might just have like low energy. Yeah. And I’m like, well, Danielle now, because now I can appreciate the ability to pick things up and being kind of strong enough that like, okay, I can pick up my kids while they’re too big for that now, but I can run like we go on vacation, run around and play tennis and beach volleyball volleyball and soccer and that kind of stuff. And um, but when I first walked into a gym it was just like, hey man, I don’t know. I’m exhausted. Like, is this going to help my ears do, does anyone walk in like that? Yeah. Most people walk in with either like I’ve let myself go and with letting yourself go comes, I have low energy. Um, I, I don’t move around well, I get gassed very like, so I
00:26:44 get out of breath very easily. Um, you know, I have these weird injuries of like just stuff just hurts. No specific reason why they’re really just trying to reclaim their,
00:26:55 you know, and that energy is part of raw. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because you know, what I find what going to radix and going to the gym has been for me, it’s become more a mental, uh, it’s become more beneficially mentally for me than I ever thought. And so although there’s been great physical benefits or the mental benefits of going to the gym or basically the primary reason I now go, like, I don’t even care. I feel I feel better, you know, I, I definitely feel stronger and stuff. But the mental benefits of a transitioned into so many other areas of life, like I can’t tell you because you know, I think you, you probably know this, but for the benefit of everyone listening is Dan got me last fall to do this thing that I’ve shared once or twice briefly before, but it was a workout where you have to do 30 clean and jerks, which if you’re not familiar with that, it’s a bar with a 45 pound plate on each side. You lift it up to your shoulders basically, and then you push it over your head. That’s a clean. And then push it over your head is a jerk. So you do that 30 times, which someone listening to this who’s fit, they might just laugh at that. For me, that was a lot. And then If you think you’re fit and you laugh at it, come to my gym
00:28:08 if you’ve never tried before you dive into all this stuff. It doesn’t, I just to be clear, you don’t have to do that. Like there’s people like on this is signing up for the challenge and I’m going to do some crazy. But that’s what people do with Iron Man and stuff. This was crazy. I look at Ironman and be like, you guys are nuts. I don’t want to do an iron man run. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So this was my crazy ironman, I guess. So it was 30 of these over my head. Yeah. And this is, I didn’t start with this and you don’t have to start with this crazy. Could just be trying to get your first pull up, which was mine, but it was 30 of those. Then it was uh, after that was running a mile a, which for me is the worst. And then after that was climbing 10 rope, a rope climbs that were maybe 15 feet, is that high 15, 15 feet rope climbs and then doing 10 of those and then it was doing another mile run and then it was at the end doing a hundred burpees.
00:29:00 So throwing yourself basically on the ground, jumping back up 100 times and you put a time cap that I had to do that under 45 minutes. And I remember during the rope climbs I was failing. And it’s funny because I went into this weird slow motion where I saw you talking to Rachel because you were trying to talk to Rachel about like, Shit, what the hell am I going to do with this guy? I don’t think he’s going to get through it. And I’m not really sure how to coach them through what you did, which I’ll explain in a minute. But I was in the slow motion where I was like reading my own thoughts out of body almost because it was like, wow. I usually don’t feel like I fail at stuff, especially that I’ve tried for it and I think I’m genuinely about to fail and I was thinking this is so interesting, like why am I going to let myself fail here?
00:29:42 And I’m like, it’s just my physical capability. I was having this like weird self talk and then, but at the same time as clearly seen you talk to Rachel and have a little bit of like a coach to coach session and then I saw Irwin at the door with Charles and I think Mike was also competing in this with me and he was just destroying it. He was like, yeah, he did really, really well and I saw, I saw like Erwin explained to Charles kind of pointing over to me, but they didn’t want to be obvious about it. Like Toms really struggling right now and it was just this weird mental moment where everything was in slow motion. I was taking all the information in and seeing all this stuff and then you coach me through it. You got me to take a longer break.
00:30:16 Just make sure that your. So your forum started to go, so yeah, we got those back so we need to take a little bit longer because I couldn’t grip the ropes anymore. My forearms were done and then I was looking at the clock and I was calculating 45 minutes was our goal and I’m thinking, all right, so for you to finish that mile in those hundred burpees, how much more time do we need? How much time can we afford to give you? And that’s what. That was my like mental process and it worked. It totally worked, man. He’s going to have to hustle. I’ll tell you what, first of all, the second one, after I got through the rope climbs, you coached me through that. The second run I couldn’t lift my arms up to run anymore, so I was running with my arms just hanging by the side of my body, like some weird Zombie and I ran a mile like that and then.
00:30:59 And then I got back in and I had to do 100 burpees and I don’t know if I’ve ever done that before, but I did 30 burpees without stopping, which for me was like quite a lot. I couldn’t open one of my hands because my arm wasn’t working. I could just put my fists down. So it was one open palm and one fist. And I did A. I did 30 in a row and then I think I had like eight minutes left to do the hundred or a six. I think it was eight minutes I forget. But it was a fat, ugly burpees. I didn’t win any form technique, but I just got them done and it was like 44 minutes and like 38 seconds under the 45 minute time cap I collapsed on the floor, Tyler at the gym, thought I was going to go to the hospital or whatever.
00:31:35 And I was, I’ve never been so proud. And for me those mental. When you are faced with like, am I about to fail right now? And then you overcome that now in life. I know this sounds crazy as maybe a 45 year old telling you this, but no, but the more of those I can have in my life, they then when something happens in your career or in business or with family or whatever it is, it’s like I’m stockpiling all these moments that have challenged me that I know I can get through. So the gym is actually making me stronger mentally in other areas of life because I actually use those lessons and I’m like, Hey, a face tufts situations before I should have to keep at it and I’ll get through it even if it’s not gym related. So in this weird way, the gym is actually rounding out and helping me build confidence in other areas of my life.
00:32:21 And you don’t have to do a crazy workout like I just described. I’m getting your first one or two pull-ups. Could be the big mental barrier challenge. And uh, I never saw that benefit from going to the gym. So, you know, I just really want to thank you for that because for sure, and it’s, it’s, it’s part of listening to a coach because I never would have done that if didn’t say you can do this. Like I literally would have never done that. I even thinking about that now. I’m like, what the hell was that? That was, that was psycho. So I think doing it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Going to the gym. No, but going to the gym, there was that other time. I think you almost thought you, you, you, I was the worst person now I did that workout that. Remember that. Uh, the first time I did
00:32:59 the first time you did fran, I’d literally thought I killed you. Yeah. Yeah. Which is not like I’m very good at assessing situations and people and their abilities and not pushing them beyond where they should go. But I pushed you. You pushed me really good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ve never seen somebody sit there for an hour and a half. Kind of like, they didn’t say English, but I’m telling you the only person though that’s ever happened to me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, see, I don’t know. I don’t know if I should be proud of that. All right.
00:33:29 No, no, no. I’m so. I’m just so grateful. That’s another moment. That’s another one of those moments. I’m like, Hey, I got through that. Anyway, these are just big mental pushing my body to its physical limits has been a big, uh, just a, a driver of confidence in the rest of my life. So whether you know that you’re doing that for people, this is just a thank you. Like really you’re doing that to a lot of people, you know, just um. Okay. So one, one thing I did want to ask you is building insurance, I suffer with endurance and you described to me two systems in the body. Can you just map that through because I know I have to work on my endurance system. How does that.
00:34:04 So we have three energy systems, um, and um, they don’t, so it’s not like one only works and then the other two shut down. All three are working. It just depends on which one is the primary energy source at the time. So when you just, um, if you do something very explosive like say jump as high as you can, you’re going to use the first energy system and that’s going to use ATP, which is cellular energy in your body. And um, and uh, creatine explodes. That’s your energy, but it only lasts for that one explosion. So anything past that, like three, five second point of using that, then your body starts to switch over to a different energy system and that’s when we start using carbohydrate, um, that we’ve, that we intake, it’s a, goes to her body, inner muscles, and then that becomes the energy. So that’s gonna last for a couple minutes.
00:35:00 That’s like something like a 400 meter run a, you know, you do a 400 meter run all out. It takes you like a minute, just over a minute or under, depending on how fit you are. And that’s the energy system that you get into there. After that, after that, a first couple of minutes, then we get into our aerobic energy system and I’m the primary source of energy for that, his oxygen. So that’s us breathing in and using that oxygen to be able to continue to have energy and to continue to what we do. So anything over three minutes, then it’s very, uh, it becomes very reliant on that system, not that the other systems ever shut off, they’re just not used the same way that, um, that a robot system is the primary source, uh, so that aerobic system and that oxidative system that has the biggest impact on, on your fitness, because first of all, everything we do is typically over three minutes now in different sports, in different situations, you know, you might rely a lot more on that second or that first one and what position you play, how long are your shifts are all those kinds of things.
00:36:04 But those, those, uh, uh, that second system is, uses the, uh, oxygen, oxygen oxidative system, um, and the oxidative system actually clears out the lactic acid that’s built up from using that carbohydrate system. So the more in shape you are with that system, the more that it can clear out and you can continue to use that muscle over and over again. So I have people do a lot of aerobic work, no matter what sport they’re playing because the more efficient that system is, the better you are in those other circumstances. So whether it’s like a 45 second shift in hockey, you would think like, well I only use that second energy system all the time, but that’s not, that’s not true because eventually a, depending on how in shape your oxidative system is using oxygen, that system you’re going to give out, the lactic acid will build up, those muscles are not going to contract well anymore and you’re going to slow way down.
00:37:08 So if my aerobic system is in really good shape, it will continue to clear out that lactic acid and then you can continue to have those really high, intense 45 second shifts. Does that make sense? So yeah, that’s, that’s like a basic rundown of how those energy systems work. And then to build your aerobic system, that is what, that’s the heart where you’re keeping your heart rate high, but not too high for longer periods of time. So like if you want to build your aerobic base, uh, you take 180 minus your age, that’s the heart rate, minus plus or minus about five beats per minute that you want to work in and you want to work a 30 to 60 minutes. Now if you’re like, uh, this is, this is for like mostly every sport, but if you’re like an ultra-endurance person, then that’s a whole different kinds of discussion too hard.
00:37:59 No, no, it’s very, it’s like you can talk to people at the heart rate, you can have a discussion. It gets kinda boring almost, but it’s very good for you. It’s good to build that base of a robotic capacity. And then, uh, that like as you build that system, you can build the other systems further and take yourself further. Your aerobic threshold, the point at which those muscles start to shut down, stuff like that. You can push them further and further. So you need to have that robust system even helps me improve my enter. Is it the other system? The anaerobic system? So yeah, so that which is like using carbohydrate for building my aerobic system
00:38:35 is going to increase the ability. It increased my anaerobic systems ability to even push a bit longer because the aerobic base is better for sure. So it’s going to help push out that lactic acid and stuff like that. And if you can’t. Okay, so 30 to 60 minutes and how many times a week to increase your aerobic system? I think you’ve told me this before, it’s two times a week. Minimum at 30th, 60 minutes. That would be a good place to. So riding a bike or light run. I switch it up. Some people like to like, I dunno, I get bored. So to run for 60 minutes later like oh my God, if I could like run road bike. So throw some sketch almost anything, anything to keep your heart rate up. But if you’re playing a specific sport, then you should just use things that you would do in that sport because then at least you’re building a more functional pattern at that heart rate and the best way, the easiest way or the cheapest way to measure your heart rate is one of those chest straps.
00:39:31 Yeah. What or how much do those go for it? You can get them anywhere between 80 and $80 in a new. How do you read it? It syncs to your phone. Just know that they typically come with a watch that will go on. Your wrist will pop up on the watch. Okay. Yeah. I just did a bunch of research into the different ones. Okay. Maybe I got a cheap one on all the websites that I saw. It was usually ranked number one or two because they connect different ways. One of the things, my old one, which was really old because I got it from my mom because she stopped using it when I. When I needed one. There’s two different ways it connects. The one will connect to a lot of new ones. Connect via Bluetooth. To your phone or to your Apple watch or to whatever else you’re using.
00:40:06 One of the, one of the watches and then there’s a another way to connect with with an a plus and some of them will connect automatically to gym equipment. So on the assault bikes at the gym. My old one I didn’t realize so I would just hop on the assault bike and it would automatically give me the reading for my heart rate, running the assault bike on the little computer, which was awesome because that didn’t need to look at it, look at the thing. So I just got one of those chest things but I know on off on mine. No on. Well yeah, the one that I had, I looked up to change the battery and because it was older you couldn’t like it just, it lasted for like years, but then you can’t actually change the battery on the thing. You gotta throw it out so you just put it on and go to one of these devices that will pick up the signal.
00:40:45 Yeah. Yes. Some gym equipment has it or it’s a Bluetooth one or it’s what Dan said, like the watch, right. So polars really popular, what they have the watch, but most of them now you can replace the batteries. The large majority you’ll be able to replace the batteries and more and more have gone Bluetooth. But I liked that little feature so I’m hoping it was through the act plus. So I got one that actually can do both. I forget the name of it. I’m still waiting to come from Amazon so I’ll let you know how it is. But I researched those things for longer than I care to admit because I was trying to get it. So the aura ring that you’re wearing a. It does, it doesn’t do heart rate in real time, but you’re not going to wear that usually works. I never looked at it.
00:41:19 It does do like throughout the day, like, like a, like an exercise score type thing, you know like I don’t know. I can’t remember if his heart rate and I never really use it. The only thing I actually use this thing for, so I’m wearing it today, but often I don’t even wear it during the day. I put it on at night because I’m curious what my recovery for the day for the next morning, which it’ll give me resting heart rate. It gives me a lot more. It gives me sleep and all that stuff. Don’t really look at it too much. Just looked at rest, look at resting heart rate while I’m sleeping and then my HRV in the morning and to give me an understanding and I was telling Dan the other day that I was. I was surprised that there was one a couple of days, couple of days ago. No, my gifts is pretty good, but a couple days ago my recovery wasn’t good. I couldn’t really, I could actually pinpoint some of the reasons, but I was surprised at how often it was. But my typical resting heart rate in the mid 40 range at night, um, based on this. And then that night we went out to the UFC, stayed up late. I had a few drinks, didn’t sleep
00:42:10 well. Was it just that night? I do. It jumped up to 60. It went from 45 to calls in your system. Your resting heart rate went up to 60, so no wonder you’re like, no, you’re not well rested because the other thing I noticed also if we eat late at night, you know, uh, that crappy food that I eat late at night every night. But you eat good food though. Are you doing? I’m Mike [inaudible] to a new. No I don’t, I don’t, I don’t, I don’t eat fast. Went down substantially when he does those. Wendy’s runs pretty good food late at night and my resting heart rate goes way up. I have two dinners. I have dinner one when I get home, which is like a big dinner and then I have dinner too after the kids go to bed. Okay.
00:42:56 Go downstairs and either have like leftovers from the previous dinner or like I’ll eat like just five random. I’ll have like peanut butter on a pizza and then I’ll have like some berries and then I’ll like I’ll eat and then I’ll have some prosciutto and then I
00:43:08 think I have like five different random foods and it doesn’t affect your recovery in the morning. Not that I’ve seen. Calorie intake is not high. It’s just higher in the evening, but overall for what he does in the day, so he needs that. His body’s going to be fine if that was like a whole bunch of extra calories beyond what he’s so maybe happening to me. Maybe I’m eating too much when it goes late at night because I’ll know it’s. It’s like I’ll document the woop. Ben taught me that if I eat past eight or nine at night, but my recovery is like consistently every single time and then if I just stopped eating like 7:30, seven, 45, it’s you do eat the same thing later, same thing. What is it? It’ll usually just be leftover. So like some protein, like chicken or beef and some vegetables and some rice.
00:43:51 It’s literally the same. I mean a different variety of those three things, but basically the same. See I actually lighter stuff like I won’t eat meals stuff I ate snack, like good snacky stuff and a bunch of it. So that’s the only difference is sometimes all that the full meal because if I get back from soccer practice with Aiden or something and it’s 9:30, maybe I missed dinner and I’m going to have it late and then I’ll be eating the full load dinner. Oh, I do that too. Before we have a class or something. I don’t get notice my recovery and if I just don’t eat all my recovery and I feel lighter and fresher in the morning. Baby. No, no. I stopped. That’s why I stopped. I don’t have to eat a lot. Like I have to eat a lot to sustain my sleep.
00:44:30 Sleep, I don’t sleep like seems like a barrier, like 16 hours a day. If I don’t eat before I sleep, I wake up in the middle of the night and I’m just like ravenous. When did you go to when you go to bed at 5:30, but you get up at like some crazy. I get up at 4:59 everyday. Why not five? Because then I’m one minute ahead of everybody who got your like Jocko Wilink. Yeah, everyday. So how you need eight hours sleep minimum for sure. So what would be the easiest way for someone walking in the gym that, you know, someone says they want to recover their body, like they just want to get a little bit of fitness back and they’ve kind of let themselves go. Is there like an easy way to summarize like, I dunno, just eat like this. Do you give anyone kind of coaching around just kind of clean this up a little bit or is it just so case by case that it just
00:45:21 case by case, but like um, if you can just eliminate some of the things that like our common sense to eliminate. Like how about we start with a not drinking late at night, which most people are having glass of wine. Beer. Let’s start with that. Um, and then, you know, like, let’s just get back to eating stuff that comes from this earth, you know, stuff like it’s the simplest things, you know, like, why? So just stop. If you’re eating fast food, stop eating fast food. Like why don’t we start with those types of things. Typically your calorie counts will go way down. The amount of sodium you take in goes way down. If you’re eating on the run all the time, then there’s a whole bunch of things that are wrong with that. Including like when you eat, you should probably sit down, think about what you’re eating, chew your food, which most people are just inhaling, right?
00:46:12 Definitely. Yeah. There’s a reason we have teeth I inhale is to break it down. You,
00:46:16 it gets in your stomach because then your body can absorb the nutrients of what you just say. You know what I mean? But yeah, sleeping at night. I just said, why do I have a full steak in the stomach? But I think
00:46:31 along with that goes, there should be a time where you’re like, you’re giving your body a chance to relax. He let your digestive system do what it’s supposed to do and you should, you know, be thankful for what you have, you know, it’s just slow it down a little bit because if you just inhaling it, you know, you’re getting a burger on the run with some coke and then you just inhaling it in the car while you’re driving like that. There’s no way any of that is good for you on any type of level of physical, mental, whatever. You know.
00:47:00 I think what really helped me was when I took the time to find the replacement foods, so instead of kind of eliminating cereal and milk, right? Which I like, okay. Cereal, because I used to think cereal, like if I got the ones with the person who looked fit on the front of the here, I thought that was basically my education. I would like, oh my God, that’s for fit people that cereal. So I’ll see if I eat a box and a half of this before I go to bed. Is that going to make me look like the person on the block? But anyway. So instead of removing that as a late night, what? It was difficult until I found like wow, I can eat almond butter. Like if I have like a piece of dark chocolate or, or like three or four pieces of dark chocolate almond butter and replace the cereal.
00:47:41 It’s way healthier for me, but it’s an I’m enjoying it even more like the doctor. Dark chocolate with almond butter to me is like the most richest treat that Richmond’s a peanut butter and chocolate or something. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I love it. I was definitely. I definitely owe deed on Richmond is Reese’s pieces. Yeah. I just, I love Richmond. But what you’re getting is a, a bunch of good fat and not that sugar insulin spike find. If someone would just kind of outline, hey, you can eat really well, just go to the grocery store and find like I didn’t know I could eat dark chocolate nuts. Like I didn’t know. Macadamia nuts, macadamia nuts. I had no idea. But Macadamia nuts. Now Rachel is Rachel loves macadamia or make you need to get a new hot tub. Before I knew how expensive they were when I first tried them on like I really love these nuts.
00:48:38 I think I went to whole foods because first of all determine first of all whole foods and then I loaded up one of those bulk bags. I’m like, I guess I’m just going to get a lot of these. I went, I books for this big was like $48. I stood back. I’m like, what 40? And then you know when you go through that little embarrassment moment you’re like, well I guess I’m still buying these because I like, but these here now, I have no shame. I’m just like, that’s crazy. I’m out of here. I’m not buying this. That’s going back. I went to buy some shortbread cookies last winter, last Christmas from whole foods and I don’t know what kind of shortbread cookies, which grandma made these things, but that came up to 50 something dollars. I walked out. I’m like, this is insane. My mom makes
00:49:20 these things. I learned from duct from Dr Cowan when I was meeting with him once he told me because. Because for a month, remember, and I lost strength and stuff and I was going, I kind of completely changed my diet to, to, to take out all sugar, alcohol, anything that can convert to sugar, alcohol, so I didn’t eat fruit, fruit juice, nothing. And it was a big, big adjustment. And at night I remember it because I was getting sugar cravings at like eight at night, like I would have ate my arm if it was made of candy, right. Um, and I wasn’t eating a lot of sugar at night, but I was having, like, I would have a lot of fruit to replace the sugar so I wasn’t eating sweet stuff. Um, so that’s why I changed it all up. And he’s the guy that told me that the combination of fat and protein together will shut off the sugar receptors.
00:49:59 Now I could be butchering the scientific terms and stuff like that. So for anyone listening to like, oh, this guy doesn’t always talking about good. Uh, you don’t know either, but. No, I didn’t know. But this is what he told me. Something like that. And I swear it could be placebo, maybe not, but now when, when I do have something like that, then I throw that together, any cravings will disappear and it’s been like the number one breakthrough for me. That just kind of stuck with me forever. Like whenever, whenever I have a craving I’ll do something when I combined some sort of fat and protein and any of those cravings just as quick and I’m totally satiated. It’s not like I’m suffering. It’s funny, I was just telling Dan this is for me, I, it’s the fat specifically. I find that like if I have a, if I’m feeling like maybe I don’t get cravings too much anymore, but if I’m feeling, if I have a spoonful of that constant MCT oil, concentrated coconut oil, that fat hits me, that does nothing for you.
00:50:48 That I’m like, well it looks this is nothing. Yeah. I don’t know what it is. It’s, it’s, it’s a CBO. Yeah. Yeah. No it is. Yeah. Just say she hates me. So like the dark chocolate, the fat, the fat. But I was telling Dan that sometimes if I, if I’m still hungry or something, if I could just have a chunk of butter, that’s a shoe to be to let’s focus for a moment. People that are listening to this, uh, new years. Right. So people are coming out new year’s. They’re like, okay, this is the year I just, I just finished eating way too much drinking way too much. I’m hoping I can really pay them back. A few good bottles of wine actually over the holidays to Dan’s going to make me suffer for that in January. But yeah. So for people that are going through that and they’re like, you know, where, where do they start man?
00:51:27 Because some people, you know, they just really have never been through this process before and it’s the first time that they’re like, look, I’ve gotten a little bit older now I’m really kind of starting to feel a little bit crappy. Um, what, what are the first kind of couple things for them to look at it. I know you mentioned like fast food and stuff, but like if you had to kind of pick like five pillars or whatever the number is for them to start and remember, these are people that really haven’t looked into this stuff before. Where, where do they go? What did they start doing? What do they look at?
00:51:52 Yeah, they need to start moving. So you’ve got to start to find something you enjoy doing. Moving. So as simple as walking. Yeah, walking could totally depending on, you know, how, how much weight you need to lose and stuff. But I know people who’ve lost 100 pounds just walking everyday because before they just weren’t, they just weren’t doing anything and they were very, very overweight. But you need to move more and find something that you enjoy or find a community of people you enjoy hanging out with and doing something like that. So that’s why running groups are so popular and Dah. Um, and that’s why, that’s why our gym works the community aspect if it. But find somewhere where you can move everyday, um, and maybe three times a week move a little more aggressively. Okay, doing something, you know, making it a little more challenging for yourself and find somebody to be accountable to or with [inaudible] then somebody is going to have to hold you to this new lifestyle that you want to start.
00:52:50 What about the people that like. So you mentioned the gym and I’ll, and I’ll let you finish, but just before I forget, what about the people that are intimidated coming into a gym because I’m sure you’ve dealt with some of those people, whether it’s your gym or any other gyms they’re going to go to. You’ve dealt with some people that are probably like it because they don’t want
00:53:05 gallery, but I just loved the also like I think I need to get in shape before I come to your gym. Like what the. Yeah. So how do you, what do you say to those people? Like did they just stop coming and please come. I will work out with you myself. Like just go, go to somewhere where the people, all the people at our gym and probably most CrossFit gyms or those types of gyms, they’re so welcoming and they understand where you’ve been and where you’ve come from. They’ve been there themselves. They will have like, we’ll help you. That’s the whole reason why we’re there and that’s the whole reason why we do this stuff. People can barely do anything come into my gym as long as they keep coming. They get better, they lose weight, they changed their lives, but like it’s like anything.
00:53:48 If you don’t show up and do it, it’s not going to happen. Right. You gotta get out of that mindset like you don’t need to be in shape to go to the gym. You don’t need to lose a couple more pot and you need to go there every day if you can, or every other day at the very least, and then just do what they. This thing about, if you’ve never been to the gym and you start going, the level of a rapid improvement that you see at the beginning is the best. Yeah. It’s awesome because every week just get better and you can stuff you’re like, this is amazing. You think it’s gonna last forever and then slowly you realize as you get in better, better shape all those, you know, it’s, it gets harder to get. It’s a law of diminishing returns, right? Yes, yes.
00:54:24 Okay, so let’s go. So get up and move and then do the like and then what? I know it’s both, right, but to do both. So it’s cleaned up their diet, you know, you gotta do both. You got to. And I honestly believed that the people who are successful with weight loss and, and getting their energy back and stuff like that, they do both. They have to make a change in both areas. You can’t just make a change in one area and expect to see the change and lead go cold Turkey because some people with bad habits, they’re just gonna all of a sudden it’s like quitting smoking, right? It’s hard. It’s like, again, if, if I can work with the person one on one, then you start to figure out why they are where they are and we start to eliminate things one at a time.
00:55:04 So when did you know Mr Reddin? Yeah. Yeah. So when he first came to me, which is like, I don’t know, seven years now, and he still works out at our gym and he did a lot of one on ones with me, but you know, he was over 200 pounds. Really? Yes. Yeah. And you see him now, you know what, you know what the only thing we did at the beginning was he is 63. I believe he was a, he’s a right. He did the 12 week challenge, but like he had lost a lot of ways even before you did the 12 week challenge. Um, he’s 158 pounds now. He was over 200 pounds. Uh, and you know what the only thing we did at the beginning, which got rid of 20 pounds is we cut out as popping as beer intake. That was it.
00:55:42 And he lost 20 pounds from that really ruined his quality of life, but now you know, like he could have been totally intimidated that guys never worked out in his life. He was a, at that point, he was in his late fifties. He was overweight, he had all the excuses in the world, but he kept showing up. So it’s really the mental shift, the rescue, if you can do that. So for the people you’ve worked with, I guess is once the mental shift happens, the rest can be figured out. Oh, if you don’t have the mental shift, it’s, you know, you’re just, it’s gonna be a tough slog. You’re not real firsthand. Yeah, exactly. For him it was a lifestyle. It was a real lifestyle change. It wasn’t. It wasn’t, uh, you know, I’m in this for three weeks now. I know it’s been seven years since that point. Yeah. Like any still in good shape and he still works out all the time and he still eats well and he still doesn’t drink a lot. He still has a beer on the weekend when he wants to. Doesn’t drink pop at all anymore because that crap is just central,
00:56:38 let’s use this college thing because I’m seeing more and more because I was, I saw some friends from high school, um, a couple of weeks ago we sat down and then a few of them are asking me, they’re like, hey man, like you, so what do you do? How do you stay in shape and stuff? And I didn’t get really into it, but I was like, guys, they’re friends from high school. So the conversation’s a little bit different. Right? But I’m like, guys, it’s not flipping rocket science, just figuring out don’t stop, stop drinking the crap that you’re drinking right now in front of you. Right? Or as much of it and go do something. Right. And um, so it kind of breaks down into some simple stuff. It’s just they need to want to do it because I see it by my. So I’m 40.
00:57:10 Right. And I, I’ve seen now at my age there’s more of a shift of people because I think really some stuff, some may be bad habits when to catch up to them and they’re starting to feel crappier and crappier and I’ve noticed myself, I have to take care of my body differently now than I did, you know, muscle 35, maybe like 30, like I started really kind of noticing a difference. It’s just more stretching, more ability. I’ll just take care of maintenance stuff a little bit more than than I used to have to. So. Okay. Yeah, because that’s, that’s the number one thing I think people are thinking around this, you know, I mean often or this time of year is it when they want to get started and they’ve never gone through this process before, they’re just like, there’s so much crap out there. There’s this diet, that diet, there’s this workout, there’s that workout. It’s like, what the hell do I do and where the heck
00:57:49 do we go? And the thing that’s crazy is if you’re consistent in you did any of those things, you would probably end up, you know, what, if they’re looking for consistency is everything, man, imagine if you guys weren’t consistent in building this business, where would it go in the gutter? Like
00:58:06 thanks sergeant, you have to do if you guys didn’t show up everyday, you know what I mean? Things that are to be easy for you guys to overcome because you guys have worked out a lot then you maybe overlook is that it’s intimidating to walk into a gym and see people throw weights up and down for someone who hasn’t because you walk in, you see all those weights flying up and down, people doing pull-ups and that immediately. It’s a big mental barrier for people to get over. I find where thankfully that Nicu forced me into it and you kind of push through. But I think I could see a lot of people just opening the door to a cross fit gym, looking in, going while those that’s way beyond me and the second place.
00:58:40 You know what that’s also said that your first, uh, your first thought about yourself in doing something cool is like, I can’t do it. Why or why, why, what would stop you from being able to do that? I honestly believe I could teach 95 percent of people had to do like a pull up and then out of those people I, you know, there’ll be some, there’s some people who obviously some, there’ll be something that they wouldn’t be able to do that, but we’d also, I could teach 100 percent of the people how to be in shape and I could teach a lot of people how to do a muscle, but if they really wanted to do a muscle up, you know, people do crazy stuff. Like, you know, why you, why are you
00:59:22 any different? Why can’t you be that person? Why can’t you have that cool story? Well, some people might not want to if you don’t want to then the next one to 50 pull-ups, but no, but like if you want to change, if you want to change, why are you not changing? Why are you, what makes you so special that you couldn’t do it? I think so many people who’ve done it and all you have to do is just keep showing up, but they haven’t done that though. They might not see that as a possibility, but that’s crazy. So I know I’m saying it’s crazy to you guys. I’m telling you the until the mental shift. Then I think the weightlifting specifically fits. If it’s doing a pull up or doing rowing and some pushups, I think everybody can say, okay, I’m going to go in there, but if you walk in and you open the door and you see people doing clean and jerks and the weights are flying around, that’s an intimidating to walk into.
01:00:09 It’s kind of like going into one of those boxing gyms where you see everybody kind of going at it. It’s hard to see yourself saying, oh my gosh, I’m going to go do 12 rounds with this guy because that’s what that looks like. You know? But if it’s just a rowing and the pushups and stuff, I can see that as like an easing your way into it. And I don’t know what it is because I feel like myself, I’m a pretty confident person, but opening the gym to that and looking at that stuff, I’m like, oh, this looks like as this beyond me. But uh, so if you have also one more thing, I didn’t think at the age of 40 it’s possible to really get fit in my mind. I think now it’s in 2000, you know, now this is going to be 2019 when this one goes out, is as that you can, uh, you, you now with CrossFit and stuff, you see people who are older who are getting totally fit of course.
01:00:55 But even 10 years ago, I think there was a lot of, you know, there was a lot of accepted norms of like, ah, you’re over 40, you got the beer belly and just let it go. Whereas now I think that’s all kind of faded away, especially now in the last five years because people are realizing that you don’t, uh, fit 50 year old feels like a unfit 30 year old. Like, you know what I mean? You can feel 20 years younger if you take care of yourself, why are you not? Yeah, no, no. Agreed. And the second thing I would say nick, to your friends meeting your high school friends, I think you think it’s not rocket science, but look at how much you helped me with my diet and you were just looking at me like are on why doesn’t Tom get that? And it’s really for someone who doesn’t know it is Kinda like, well that’s fair if you’ve never looked into it even make sense.
01:01:40 I don’t like. It’s like you would tell me something and I’m like, Oh really? That like it would be a new way, like in any like in anything that you focus on for a period of time. Anyone you take for granted what you know from the beginning. Just like when we work with investors or you work with people training like anyone in any industry, you kind of forget that stuff. Now when you have that context of like, now I can see it. I’m like, oh my gosh, anyone can walk in Dan to your gym and you’re going to take them from zero PVC pipes. Yeah, pick up the lightest thing in your house, your broom handle, put it up over your head. We can teach you how to clean, injure. What do you look for? What if someone’s looking for someone to kind of help them go down this
01:02:20 path? So there’s a guy that I’m at the gym that I’ve heard him say a couple times like that. I’m not normal because I go in in the morning and I’ll gladly work couple of myself and I’ll drag myself to the gym by myself every day and he’s like, see what he does? Is it normal? Like, hey, you need someone to be there or a class or I need someone to be accountable to. Yeah, right. Yeah. So. And I get it. I’m like, it’s slightly addicted to working out, but. But for someone that thinks that I’m not normal and, and want somewhat and wants a trainer or wants to start in that path, which if you’ve never done anything, it’s actually a really good way to do it because to make sure you’re doing things properly and that type of stuff. What do they look for in your opinion? In like a good, a good trainer, wherever, you know, wherever they’re going.
01:03:02 Yeah. So the first thing I would ask a trainer is if that’s their full time Gig, like if that’s what you’re doing for your, you know, as your career, that’s, that’s somebody I’d want to work with. Um, and then, uh, you know, I would, uh, ask for a couple of their before and after stories and see, you know, what they’ve done with people before. And then from there you’ll be able to tell. What about most people who do it for living. Like we, I don’t know, I continually educate myself. Every year I’d take more courses and you know,
01:03:39 I didn’t believe this before, but I think probably depending on their age or be it will be worthwhile to know if they’ve worked with people in that age range as well. Right. Because in my understanding from the way I’ve trained now compared to how it used to because of you, it’s changed and it’s been more beneficial for me and I think some of it has to do with my age. So that probably matters too because if you’re like a, you know, a 60 year old women woman, you shouldn’t be trained in the same way as a 30 year old guy that if someone hasn’t gone through that process like that that matters. And it matters a lot too.
01:04:06 I think the willingness to have the coach or the trainer, uh, to uh, have your best interest in mind in and get the best program for you going, did you get like, I’ve never worked with somebody who doesn’t have a leg. And then I had the opportunity to do so. And I told her straight up like, listen, I’ve never worked with an amputee before, but I’m 100 percent willing to learn and if you’re okay with, you know, going along that process with me, then I’m more than willing and she, she thought it was awesome and I love what I do. So I did a bunch of research and I also talked to a lady who did a seminar that I went to about training people without legs, arms, amputee, stuff like that. And then I called her and we did it at our, a phone call and I got all her advice on it.
01:04:59 And because I care, I want, I want this lady to get better. Right? So if you need to find somebody who really loves what they’re going to do and they’ll figure out a way to get you to your goals, you know, and that for us that means going above and beyond what normal people would do. And I think that should, you know, the person that you’re looking for is somebody who really wants to help you get where you want to be. What do you have going into the, I know the, a new year, what do you have going on at radix now coming up because you always got something good cooking. Yeah. So I got two things going on for January. Um, we have the CrossFit open coming at the end of February, so we’re doing a CrossFit open a camp, which is like what we used to do when I was fighting.
01:05:43 We’d do like six to eight week training camps where you kind of really focus in, on getting ready for the fight. Um, that includes diet, recovery, excuse me, a supplement, all your training, accessory weakness work. So I got, I have like over 20 people who are getting ready for that and, and I’m taking care of all the letters that just anybody who wants to do the CrossFit open is more than welcome to join if you’re a crossfitter and you’re looking to take yourself to a whole different level. That’s what I’m trying to do here with people. Um, and then we also have what we’re calling the 12 week challenge light. So it’s going to be a six week challenge and it’s just focused on. Excuse me.
01:06:24 Yeah, you’re going to choke right now. You had that espresso chocolate bar. Yeah,
01:06:30 it’s six weeks and all it’s about is getting back your body. So for those people who have let themselves go into, uh, you know, they’re looking for a big change in a big way and want to see big results in six weeks. That’s what we’re doing. I’m, I’m telling you right now, it’s not a sustainable thing, but we’ll teach you how to make that into a maintenance sustainable thing. But we want to get as much change as possible in six weeks. So we are also doing that. That’s going to be a lot of fun and we’re going to see a lot of big a before and after kind of stuff from that. Also for people. Is that one. That’s for anybody. That’s for anyone. If you are looking to make a big change in 2019 and you want to see big results in six weeks, that will be.
01:07:14 And how, uh, what’s the best way to reach out to you? And you got to go on some people. Oh, two things. Some people know that, uh, nick and I do this CrossFit open stuff and I had an investor a pull me aside and say, Hey Tom, you know, I’d beat you by one place last year and I couldn’t do this. I don’t know. I don’t know. Nick might know these are, I think he’s half a million. I think he lives off and he said, you basically had me beat in everything, but I guess you can’t skip. I’m like, no, I can’t. So, uh, so he was just kind of laughing at it because he’s like, you hadn’t beat on everything but on the or not, I don’t know if it was everything but mostly. And then on the skipping that I just failed. But, uh, anyway, I’m slowly correcting that. So that’s the cool thing about the CrossFit open is that like everyone on all levels joins it and you can kind of see where everybody isn’t. Just kind of laugh at yourself. You have to. But uh, so what’s the best way to reach out to you?
01:08:09 Yeah. Uh, by email rate x firstname.lastname@example.org. Okay. X performance outline work with people. Do you work with people remotely or is it just people that come to the gym? You said You thought I forgot remote coaching both for programming for their workouts and also a nutrition or both. It always works better if it’s both, but yeah, and we do. We’ve done 12 week challenges remotely with like we just finished one with the guy from Vaughn who lost over 20 pounds and some like 10 percent body fat.
01:08:42 What’s going to go on is, is the other thing with the belt going to happen?
01:08:46 We have a big, uh, our first big CrossFit competition happening in the new year, uh, that we’re hosting at the gym and it’s called the rate rumble. So we got to like a heavyweight championship belt for the winter to take home. And what’s that going to? Is that a one day thing? Uh, today? I think it’s turning into a two day thing now, right? Yeah. Um, it’s teams, it’s teams of four from gyms all across Ontario.
01:09:12 Oh. So it’s not an individual teams. Yeah. And you got to bring it in. This format is going to be different than most other things. This is going to be a bar person to guys and girls mixed. Is that what it is? Yeah. It’s two guys, two girls for team. Okay. And it’s over multiple days.
01:09:30 Yeah. Uh, your, your, you and your team will only compete on the one day, but I have so many divisions now that I’m going to have to open a second day. Is this, there’s a masters division? Yes. Got It. So there’s a masters division for 35 plus so they don’t have to play with the kids. So 35 plus. Well only one masters, division 35 plus. It’s so hard to like. Yeah, I know. I’m joking. Cool. I want you to over 35 are just old anyway. So.
01:09:56 And thank God making friends. Thirty three. Sometimes we’re doing a workout gym and like I’ll just notice how slow I’m getting up off the floor. And I’m like, oh my gosh, am I just getting old right now because I’m like exhausted and I’m just getting some farmer that a rowing workout and growing and skipping that day almost died, which I couldn’t even, I, I hopped into the cost later. I couldn’t even drive home. I didn’t warm up. I just hopped in, I wrote like an idiot and then I couldn’t even. Like I couldn’t control my hands day was the worst one you ever programmed for us, which was awesome. Which actually love boys. Uh, that one where we had to do a, it was like, you picked a number of kettlebell squats to do.
01:10:41 Oh No, you pick the. No, no, no. The one with the 12 rounds you had to pick how many squats you like you had to pick how many squats per round that you thought you could maintain for the 12 rounds?
01:10:52 Yeah. And I think everyone picks too high on the. I didn’t so conservative too. I could not walk for like five or six days afterwards. We were all texting each other. That’s the cool thing about going to a gym that I didn’t understand either your type, it’s the community. I love the trash talking between everyone in the positive trash
01:11:14 dot liquid supporting each other, but you don’t have, you know, it’s, you know, it’s not trashed and some people like for my wife when she goes and talks to people, they just chat while the ladies of 9:30 is it? It’s definitely a social. I like trash talking between everyone that we go together but also supporting everybody of course at the same time like trash talk. But when it comes down to, you know, the hard workouts, they’re screaming, cheering everybody on men because you know what the feeling is like, you know, that feeling is the best. Dan, thank you for doing this. Uh, you know, maybe as a thank you, we’ll get you some rich man. Reese’s pieces, some things and appreciate it man.
01:11:55 Hey, if you’re listening to this and you want it to get in touch with Dan, let me just repeat his email address. It is a type radix email@example.com. So radix is a. sorry, let me try that again. firstname.lastname@example.org, so Dan, that’s his best contact information email@example.com and you can reach out to him that way if you’re interested in me that stuff and listen, if you’re entering 2019 and you not only want to get fit but you want to pick up some real estate knowledge, the best place to go for that would be rockstarinnercircle.com. That is the collection of articles and resources that we have on their free books. Free digital copies of our books are on there and you can sign up for at this point I feel like it’s our famous introductory class.
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